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Interview with Kazuo Kurahashi

Me, Keiichi san, Go san, Kura san and Adam chan

Interview with Kazuo Kurahashi

I met Kura-san in Tadami on my second tenkara trip to Japan. Our first acquaintance was filled with lots of drinking with many people and talking, partying. The Tadami Bansho were we hung out is a perfect setting for tenkara parties, it’s a very old Japanese building. We fished a couple of times, once on a day trip, another on a genryu adventure. Our initial introduction was through fishing and all the things about it. As we returned from fishing, I was able to talk to Kura-san a little more and I knew we would be connecting once I returned home to the USA.


Kura-san is kind, gentle and a passionate fisherman. He is also a craftsman that makes incredible fishing equipment. Recently, I asked him to make me a ridiculously small box to hold just a few kebari. Before I knew it, he had sent back a picture, “Adam-san, I think it may be a bit small?” No, it is exactly what I asked for and then some.


We share our memories on social media together. I often see more of the images I saw in Japan from his account. He crafts from very lightweight but strong Japanese wood, fishing with friends and I knew it was time to interview him.


Adam Trahan: I apologize for taking so long to do this. I remember outside of the bansho, we had a moment and I promised you and Ito-san that we would do this. 


Welcome to Tenkara-Fisher. This is where I focus my interest in tenkara. Keichi joined me several years ago to help me keep my focus true to tenkara, where it came from, where it is at and where I would like to keep it.


The interviews are fun for me. They usually take about 10 hours to complete all inclusive. Often I will research the person that I am interviewing ever before I begin. In your case, I do not need to do this as we have fished together and spent some time with each other. Now we do social media and I appreciate who you are.


Let me give you this opportunity to just say hello and introduce yourself.


Kazuo Kurahashi: I started fishing when I was 6 years old. I fished various fish using bait and lure in the neighboring river, pond and sea. Anything was enough if I could catch it.


I began trout fishing when I was 25 years old. I was deeply impressed with the mountain stream and the beauty of the fish. I tried spinning, fly fishing and bait fishing.


When I was around 30 years old, I started tenkara fishing. Its simplicity and reasonableness matched well with my way of thinking. Since then, I have been doing only tenkara for about 23 years.


Recently, I have been making fly boxes for tenkara for about 6 years and also, I have just started making spools last year.



Adam Trahan: I am a lifelong fisherman. I have been doing tenkara only for about 12 years but I have been fly fishing since I was a child. Even with fly fishing, I would go through times where I had intense interest and then my passion would not be so strong. I still fish but I am not going as much and it does not occupy my mind like it does at other times. I’m very excited to finally be interviewing you. I know that my interest will be increased because I will be thinking of tenkara fishing in your area! I love travelling and fishing.


That little box for kebari that you made for me. This is one of my passions. To create a little kit that goes with me everywhere. Even to the office. That kit will be many things for me but the main thing it does is it allows me, wherever I am, to be able to go fishing or to show people tenkara. I’ve been thinking of making this box for myself for a long time but I knew that you would be able to make it very light and strong. When I got the picture, it was amazing and when I received the box, I knew the idea was true. Now the only thing I need is a small wooden spool…


When we fished together, I used the Keiru rod from Nissin, the Pocket Mini V3. I do not normally use these rods. I like them, but they are not primary tenkara fishing rods. I handed the rod to many people on my trip and everyone liked the action and the line that I created for the rod is balanced and good for tenkara. 


The Pocket Mini and the Tenkara Mini are perfect for my idea of a travel rod. They fit inside my bags. They are perfect for everyday carry. They are small and fit inside of my small bag. Always there to show someone in the office, the bar, on the street or if I come upon some water, I can fish. 


I have tenkara rods that I use for planned trips. I like the Nissin Zerosum and for honryu, I use the Suimu by Gamakatsu. 


“Can you tell us a little bit about your equipment? How you choose it, how you have developed your collection?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: I choose the rod to match the river and how to fish, so I have some rods which have different lengths and characteristics.


Basically, I use 4.0-4.5m with 5-8m line for the wide river, 3.2-4.0m with 3-5m line for the narrow river.

I like medium-slow taper (6:4) rods, but catching the fish is sometimes difficult for the river with many obstacles such as trees or big rocks. In such a river, I use fast taper (7:3) rods.

 

It is good to have a light weight, but it is a trade-off with strength.


I think it is important that the rod has the character of “Nebari”. It is difficult to explain “Nebari” even in Japanese. It bends well but does not break, keeping enough power at the bat part. It makes fighting easy with a big fish. It might be  “the rod which has enough strength of the bat, and moderate stiffness and elasticity”. Is it the proper expression? I don’t confident.


Some information is obtained from the fishing rod catalog or other fisher’s evaluation. However, I can't judge whether it fits for me unless I get it and actually use it in the river. So, I tried many rods, not only new ones but many used ones. Also I often borrowed rods from my friends which I do not have and checked them.


I sold the rods I didn't like to a second-hand store and used the money to buy the next one. What I have now is their survival. I have not counted how many, there must be more than 15.


Adam Trahan: I have two rods that are a little different, the Karasu by Go Ishii, Paul Gaskell and John Pearson. I really like them, the 4m is an extremely accurate rod. My little Zerosum is probably my favorite tenkara rod. It is so light and has a great cast. I’ve been asked once, “what is my favorite rod?” and my answer was my Nissin Tenkara Mini 3.6m. I don’t even use it all that much compared to my other rods. It is my favorite because it goes with me everywhere and I really like to travel and it’s always in my bag. That makes it my favorite.


“Do you have a favorite tenkara rod and why?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: I often use Karasu and Zerosum, they are both good.


Recently I have been using Nissin “ROYAL STAGE TENKARA 6:4” 4.0m. It is not expensive but well balanced and easy to use. I also use Daiwa “EXPERT TENKARA L LL45M” 4.0-4.5m zoom. It is a little bit heavy, but I like it as a 4.5m class tenkara rod.


 I want to try some other rods, but they are not in the fishing tackle store in my neighborhood. If I have a chance, I would like to check it out at events such as fishing shows.



Adam Trahan: There is more to tenkara than just the rod. My favorite other pieces of kit are all custom made. I have some wooden boxes made by friends that all have a story including the little box you made me.


“Can you tell us about crafting your kebari boxes? How did you start doing it and why?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: I tried a lot of boxes but there is no one that really suits me. I didn't even know what the best fly box for me was. Then I thought about making various boxes myself and trying them out.


I chose Hinoki (Japanese cypress) as the material. Hinoki is a light, tough, beautiful, inexpensive and practical material. In Japan, it has been used for building materials and furniture for a long time. I thought it would match my tenkara spirit, and the biggest reason is, it was easy to get.


At first, I referred to the existing fly boxes and books. I had to get some new tools, but there was nothing technically difficult about woodworking. All that was important was to work carefully. However, painting was difficult. I have made various experiments and prototypes up to the current method. It is so-so, not so bad, but the goal is still ahead…



Adam Trahan: I used to make bamboo fly rods. I can really appreciate the precise work that you do. My rods where measured in thousands of an inch, the pieces had to be nearly perfect in order to fit so precisely. Your boxes are well made, the spools are thought out and crafted well too. I appreciate your work.


I have a fly rod that is 12 years old now. It is a beautiful piece that at one point, 18 different pieces of wood meet, there is no gap. I had to draw all those pieces of balsa, purpleheart and tonking cane together, no easy feat but it’s done and I was taught by many great teachers.


“Can you tell us about one of your favorite things that you have made? What is the story behind it? Are you self taught?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: I do not have such a great thing like your bamboo fly rods!


There was a small rod maker near my town where I used to live, which made bait rods for small Ayu (sweetfish). I got the rod and attached a cork grip to it and modified it a little for tenkara.


The length is 4m, it is very light but strong with good Nebari. Vibration stops quickly, and the design is simple. I really like it and have been using it for over 20 years.


The wooden fly box which I am using now is one of my favorites. I made it about 5 years ago. I repainted the box when it was damaged and kept on using it until now.


The longer you use the wooden fly box, the more it tastes. Scratches, dents and discoloration are the memory of fishing. By layering it with paint, it has a deeper taste, it becomes one and only. It is fun unique to woodwork, not plastic.


Adam Trahan: My choices in gear changes however, I still find value in the equipment that I used and replaced. My kit, which is all the equipment that I use when I am fishing and hiking has evolved from my own experiences before going to Japan and meeting with you guys to understanding very focused equipment such as your community uses. When we went fishing together, Keiichi san told me that the area he chose for us was not too tough. I agree after doing it and more importantly, seeing the terrain that you guys call difficult in your media. Your sawanobori boots for instance, they are perfect for the steep streams and climbing then in Japan. There are only a few places here that they are good for. Yes, you can use them but there are better suited boots for the approach and wet wading in our mountainous streams.


What I’m saying is that I get my influence from Japanese equipment and your tenkara anglers but I apply my own experiences in my area and choose my equipment for the terrain here.


I think that’s best.


As far as the fishing equipment goes, it’s basically the same. 


Here in America, we have rod companies that are offering rods for tenkara. These companies are guided by people that have never been to Japan to understand tenkara there.


I think this is ok but, these companies are not the equipment that I choose. Many of them are only a few years old. They do not have the luxury of experience, designing, the research and development and final product in comparison with Japanese rod companies. So I choose Japanese rods because of the long history.


“What do you think about “new tenkara equipment” in comparison to the long history of tenkara equipment that has been developed in Japan?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: One Kebari rod (not yet called "Tenkara") is listed in a 40-year-old fishing gear maker’s catalog. Although it is made of carbon, its decoration was very beautiful with a strong awareness of traditional crafts. Not limited to tenkara, many of the high-class rods at that time had the beauty of traditional crafts.


The decoration of current rods is generally simpler than those. Some seem cool, but many look cheap. Why? There may be various reasons. Cost reduction, productivity and profitability, changes in what users like, etc. There may have been a manufacturer's direction to sell practical tools at a practical price.


Anyway, fishing gear with traditional craft beauty is now only luxury goods made by some well-established craftsmen. Bamboo rod is one of them.


As an aside, Bamboo rods were familiar to me in my childhood. My first rod was just cutting bamboo from the back mountain and removing the branches. The three-piece bamboo rod was sold everywhere for about 500 yen. Of course, they were cheap, far from the luxury of traditional crafts, but they were good for children's play. Over time, they have been replaced by glass rods and are now almost gone. I sometimes miss it.


Adam Trahan: Sebata san gave me a rod, an old rod from Sakura. It sits in my rod rack and I will take it out now and then and fish it. I like it very much and the fact that he gave it to me means a lot to me. I use a modern rod for my every day fishing. 


“What do you think about the evolution of tenkara equipment?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: Since the appearance of tenkara with the fluorocarbon level line, various manufacturers have developed and released various lines with good visibility and various rods suitable for casting light lines. They made tenkara easier and became a major factor in today's tenkara epidemic.


Now, some people use traditional yarned taper lines, and some take in fly fishing techniques such as dry fly and nymphing. There are more choices for tenkara styles and gears compared to the past,.


The diversification of tenkara will continue, and the tools will evolve along with it. However, I don't think the tenkara system will get complicated. Because the biggest fascination of tenkara is “Simplicity”.


Recently, the grip of the tenkara rod is shifting from cork to EVA. This is because of consideration for the depletion of natural cork resources. I don't know if EVA is suitable, but anyway, there are such problems now.


Manufacturers should consider the impact on the natural environment more than ever, and it is the same for anglers who use the gears they made.


Adam Trahan: Our fishing media here in North America really does not cover tenkara. It may make mention as a tool for a certain type of water. The media here does not know tenkara like you do or like travelling fishermen like myself that seek out groups of anglers in Japan. 


I think our media rarely helps the innovators or the first people to import new ideas. By design, they want to market what they know, they take the safe approach. Even our cutting edge and outspoken media rarely takes a chance on tenkara and reports on it as it should be.


We have a project here, “Tenkara Angler” magazine. They crowd source their material and it is basically a volunteer project. I’ve contributed to it however, it is not the source of material that I want to focus on. 


In Japan, you have a couple of magazines that feature tenkara.


“Can you describe them and what do you think of these magazines?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: I often read mountain stream and headwater fishing magazines, I like them.


The article on fishing trips introduces not only fishing, but also river scenery, river trekking, and camping. It makes me feel strongly about mountain streams whenever I read it.


Introductions of gears give me new information, it is helpful. Articles on wild fish, insects and animals and plants around the mountain stream give me knowledge. It is often thought-provoking about the lives and history of people living in the streams and mountains, and about the river environment. Of course, I love articles about traditional crafts like bamboo rods.


Tenkara articles have been increased. Tenkara masters often appear on them. I also often see special articles for beginners, it will be useful for those who are about to start tenkara.


Adam Trahan: I like Japanese Headwaters magazine. I stopped buying it though, I still read it when I get a chance. I have a friend that I taught tenkara to. His family lives in Tokyo so he buys it and Japanese Whisky! When he comes back to Arizona, we drink Hibiki and look at Headwaters together!


When we visited together at Tadami Bansho, we partied and drank and eat and talked, watched videos of Sebata san. It was a super fun time. I think you guys like to party with travelling visitors.


Sebata san travelled to America and made a video fishing the great Western rivers. It is a neat video and long before tenkara was popular in America.


“Do you ever want to fish in America?” 


Kazuo Kurahashi: Of course, yes. I want to see various trout in various rivers. I also want to see my friends. It doesn't have to be tenkara! lol


Adam Trahan: I want you to know, you are welcome in my home and I would be happy to take you around however, I live far away from good fishing. 2 - 4 hours to get to good water, 8 - 10 hours to some of the best fishing areas in the mountains or rivers.


“How far are your favorite waters from your home?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: It is the same for me.


It takes about 3.5 hours to the river I usually go, and at least 8-10 hours where I really want to go. If possible, I would like to go fishing and camping for more than a week.


Adam Trahan: I like my friends in Japan. I know the tenkara community is very small there. It is small here in America but I think there are a lot more people here that do it in comparison. Most of the tenkara anglers here do other types of fishing. We have one vendor that helps the enthusiasm for Japanese style lure fishing. I’ve done a little of that type of fishing 40 years ago and although it is very productive, I have found what I enjoy. Really, that’s what it’s all about for me, what I like and I enjoy tenkara. 


“Do you have any fishing friends, acquaintances outside of Japan?”


Kazuo Kurahashi: Yes, I have some friends in the US, UK, Italy and France. (I think you know most of them.) They came all the way to Japan and fished tenkara with me. I still have connections and sometimes communicate with them via SNS.


Adam Trahan: I follow a few English tenkara fishermen. They also do some Japanese style lure fishing. There are some Italian fishermen that do “Valsesiana” type fishing which is very much like tenkara.


“Is there any other type of fishing outside of Japan that you like or want to do?"


Kazuo Kurahashi: I have heard about fishing in Valsesia too. It is very interesting that there is the same fishing method in Japan far away. I think their river and trout must have something similar.

There should be other rivers suitable for tenkara in various parts of the world. I want to try tenkara in such a river, and I want to see fish there.


Adam Trahan: Kura san, I really appreciate you, I like your craft, what you do.


"Is there anything you want to say before we go?"


Kazuo Kurahashi: Catching fish is not the only way to enjoy tenkara.


Tenkara is compact with few gears, so it is suitable for enjoying in combination with various activities, river and mountain trekking, camping, driving, etc. It is also fun to improve and customize the gears yourself to suit your style. I'm really looking forward to something interesting being created through it.


Finally, please remember the respect for the natural environment and the fish that give us a lot of joy. Take care of your safety, and let’s enjoy tenkara.



A Few Questions with Kozue Sanbe

Kozue Sanbe and Yuzo Sebata
I have been following Kozue-san from afar via social media. Her role in our tenkara community visiting Japan is also important. Her presence in the Bansho as I visited Tadami was felt and I admired her willingness to help in all the things of a travelling fisher. She assisted with meals, transportation and generally being a super guest as I visited her area so far away from home.
I purposefully kept close to her as our group stayed in the Bansho and moved to the Aizu watershed for a fishing adventure. I felt like she was helpful and kind. She does not speak English, I do not speak Japanese but I wanted her to know that I think she is special and that I appreciate her contribution to the visitors of the bansho and tenkara community.
Without going on too much about Kozue-san, let me begin.
Kozue-san driving us to the trailhead to go fishing in the Akakuzure-sawa

Adam: Kozue-san, here we are! I told you that I we would do an Interview! I have wondered about you more than a few times since I saw you in September of 2016 and I hope life finds you well.
“Will you please tell us a little bit about yourself?”
Kozue Sanbe: My name is Kozue Sanbe and I am an administrator at Tadami bansho.
Adam: I want you to know that I really appreciate what you do, your hospitality. Thank you. 
“Can you tell us, how long have you been at the bansho and fishing in the area?”
Kozue Sanbe: I have worked here for 9 years and have been tenkara fishing four years.
Adam: I enjoyed my stay at the bansho in Tadami, it was an amazing experience. I was looking around and observing the different people in the bansho and realized you were a very big help and ever present.
“What else do you do at the bansho?”
Kozue Sanbe: I am also the only sightseeing manager at the bansho.

Adam: Here in my area of the Southwestern United States, our oldest homes are about a hundred years old.
“How old is the bansho and what was it designed for?”
Kozue Sanbe: About 250 years ago, the bansho was a house built for a farmer Shoya. It is a building of the Edo period, a time when Samurai lived and stayed here. The bansho was a guard house.
Adam: Kozue-san, I interviewed Yoko Goto, it was a really fun interview. She is a really keen angler.
You are too from what I see of your pictures.
“Please tell us who taught you tenkara?”
Kozue Sanbe: Yuzo Sebata
Adam: I was given a big bag of zenmai when I got to the bansho, I know that some of the trails in the mountains around Tadami are zenmai paths
“Do you know anything about the zenmai collectors?”
Kozue Sanbe: My father made a hut on the mountain and stayed on the mountain for a month during the spring. The zenmai from spring was handed over you, zenmai collected by my father.
Adam: Sebata-san is a very keen angler, I really enjoyed watching the videos of him while we where there.
“Do you go fishing with Sebata-san? Can you tell us a story about it?”
Kozue Sanbe: I went fishing in a nearby river for three years now. Since then, I go stay in the mountains and Sebata-san taught me a lot.
Adam: There are not that many women tenkara anglers in Japan from what I understand. 
“Can you tell us the percentage?”
Kozue Sanbe: I do not know the proportion of female fishermen, but there are 50 Utsunomiya club members of the fishing association that I am in and there is only one woman.
Adam: When I go fishing, it is a chance for me to escape the stressful world of the city. I understand from talking with many anglers in your area that the old zenmai trails are overgrown and many of the youth in the area are leaving for the city.
“Are the old ways disappearing?”
Kozue Sanbe: Yes, young people are moving into cities.
Adam: I spent quite a bit of time and effort to get to Tadami to stay in the bansho and go fishing in the area. It is beautiful and I enjoyed myself so much. 
“Do you want more people to come to the area and fish?”
Kozue Sanbe: Yes, we want more people to come to this area and catch fish. The transition of the four seasons is beautiful, please come visit the bansho in Tadami.
Adam: I just went fishing this morning and caught a couple of fish with a friend. We went fishing in the city in man made ponds with fish that were put there for fishing. It is very convenient and we do it in the winter because we do not have to drive so far.
“What do you think of things like this? In urban ponds that are in the city.”
Kozue Sanbe: I just want to walk along and fish in the stream while feeling nature. I will be happy if I can see beautiful fish.

Adam: Sanbe-san, thank you again for joining me here, I would like to wrap this up by thanking Akinori-san for his help in interpreting, thank you. I understand these interviews take time.
Tadami Bansho

Genryu Fishing of Japan #41




Snow Bridge in mid July

by Keiichi Okushi

This year, rainy season ended much earlier than usual year. In our main genryu fishing field Tohoku, generally the rainy season ends around middle to end of July, but it ended by the end of June this year. As soon as July came, the summer had come. The sun was shining and glittering strongly every day. I do not like the rainy and humid climate of the rainy season, but when the rainy season had ended so soon, I was concerned about the shortage of water. Not to mention growth of agricultural crops, I was also worried that the genryu in the summer would not be drought.



In mid-July, on the three consecutive holidays including the marine day, I went to Arakawa flowing on the south side of the Asahi mountain range with 2 friends, Go-chan and Ubi-chan. Arakawa genryu area is a beautiful mountain stream that runs through white granite river-bank, and the stream is surrounded by mountains of 1,500 meters to 1,800 meters and untouched forests of beech. For me Arakawa is a stream that I have fished many times already, but it is the first genryu in Asahi Mountains for Go-chan and Ubi-chan. Tenba (Camp site) is only 2 hours walk from the car parking, and we can use the climbing trail up to the tenba.

In this fishing trip, we planned to stay at this tenba for 2 nights and aimed to go to the upstream waterfall called “Magari-daki” that I have never been before. A little while ago when I visited Sebata-san at Bansho in Tadami, as I talked about this fishing trip, Sebata-san said, "There must be still snowy bridges remaining in mid-July and it might be impossible to go to Magari-daki." However, we did not have much snow this year, so I thought that it would be fine in the middle of July as expected.



When we arrived at car parking lots by Arakawa, as the weather forecast was very good for the three consecutive holidays, there were 5 or 6 cars were parked in the parking lots at the gate of the climbing pass already. Early in the morning, when nobody had gotten up yet, we started walking up the mountain path. Arakawa's climbing path continued upstream along the river, so there was no hard climb. We walked breathlessly in the deep forest where stunning beech trees are scattered. We crossed three suspended bridges that gradually became poorer, and when the sun appeared over the mountains, we arrived in Temba.

Around the time the Tarp and the Blue Sheet were set up in the tenba, 2 anglers were coming down to the stream. We exchanged greetings. They said "We will stay for one night, so we would like to go to the tenba of about an hour and fish around there." I said “OK, then we will fish lower part today.” “We will take care walking not to spook fish” they said and walked to up stream.

We had a break for a while and prepared for fishing. Go-chan said he would like to fish near tenba and have a little nap today. I could understand him because we only slept for 2 or 3 hours a night before. Ubi-chan and I decide to fish up to Masudome-no-taki (Trout Stop Water Fall) which is about 1km up-stream from the temba. Arakawa in this section is surrounded by un-touched deep forest of big old beech trees, and stream flows slowly with a large amount of water.

I thought fishing might be a tough condition because it was already July and many fishers walked and fished around this area, but contrary to expectations, the fish showed good reactions to our kebari. There were nice sized iwana of 24-27 cm vent our rods at every good point. Apparently the two leading fishers seemed to have walked so as not to rough the fishing points. Ubi-chan and I enjoyed fine fishing up to Masu-dome water fall. We had lunch under the water fall and walked back to the tenba.

When we arrived at the tenba another 2 guys lookd ike fishers were resting by the tenba. I said hello to them, then one guy told me “You are Okushi-san, aren’t you?”. He was a genryu fisher that I once met in the keiryu and talked for a while. They were wanting to stay at this tenba, so we welcomed them to set a tarp by our place. Luckily there was enough space for one more tarp. I said, “Let’s drink together tonight.” “Yes, of course.” they answered with smile.

"Photo by Uberto Calligarich"
We started bonfire around 5:00 and prepared for dinner. That evening, Go-chan cooked lamb-chop steaks with salt, pepper and rosemary. We called 2 guys and had beer together. Lamb-chop steaks were so good. We also cooked more foods and enjoyed talking until about 9:00 pm. When noticing, the starry sky, that was promising good weather of next day, was spreading in the night sky.

Next morning, we woke up at 6:30 am. When we were having breakfast, 2 young guys looked like Sawanobori (Stream trekking) were coming over. They told that they were on a day hike sawanobori and do some fishing too. We said we would probably catch up sometimes later, and we saw off them. There were many people because of 3 consecutive holidays. Well, thought that day's fishing was difficult, but I thought it was OK if we could see Magari-daki, and we left Tenba after 8:00 am.

"Photo by Uberto Calligarich"
The morning mist hung over the river where the sun light was not reached yet. We aimed up-stream and walked in this fantastic scenery. It only took us 30 minutes to Masu-dome waterfall where we finished fishing yesterday. Masudome waterfall is only about 8m but it had a large amount of water and there was a huge pool under the waterfall. There was also another 8m waterfall right after Masudome waterfall. I told Go-chan and Ubi-chan how to climb over the waterfalls, and I traversed right side of the pool and climbed Masudome waterfall and waded across the rapid stream and climbed the next waterfall. Go-chan and Ubi-chan climbed the waterfalls safely. We really enjoyed this waterfall climbing.


Gorge finished just upstream of the waterfall and the vast Hirokawara (Wide and flat shallows) spread before our eyes, and over there the spectacular scenery of the Asahi mountain peaks were spreaded under the shining sun and the blue sky. There were no clouds to obstruct this majestic scenery shone on the summer sun. Ubi-chan and Go-chan both were taking photos. This was the landscape I wanted to show them. I said, “Real Arakawa genryu is starting from here.” Since we have a predecessor, we took walk forward for a while.

Two fishers we met yesterday came down as we walked a little. Talking, yesterday they took a tenba near there and fished up-stream. “Fishing was good.” They smiled fairly. Talking with them, I learned that they are the same locals as me. We talked for a while and said good-bye. Around 9:00 am, we reached the confluence of Nabekura-sawa where a huge snow bridge lied down even in mid-June. The snow bridge had disappeared without a trace, but the mainstream was deep pool for about 30m that we can not wade or traverse, Ubi-chan and I decided to climb over the 40m high right-side riverbank, but surprisingly Go-chan swam and broke through the pool.

We started fishing from the up-stream of this big pool. We fished some iwana but size was not satisfied, we knew it was because there were still 2 sawanobori guys up-stream. We walked again and then we found 2 guys about 100m up-stream. We soon caught up with them. It was around 10:30. They said they were just finishing fishing and go down the stream as they had to go home by the evening. Finally, there was nobody up-stream of us in Arakawa genryu. Now, as soon as I thought that Arakawa fishing was going to be real high right, the river suddenly became little muddy. I think it was the sign that a snow bridge broke down somewhere up-stream. "In July, there must be snow bridges left." I remembered Mr. Sebata-san’s words.

As we fished and walked for about 30 minutes, the turbidity disappeared. After passing a large tributary called Ohobi-zawa, the flow of mainstream became rapid, and the contrast of white granite of river banks and green forest, pale blue sky showed us a beautiful scenery of Arakawa genryu. Iwana to catch got bigger, and they bent our fishing rod comfortably.

"Photo by Uberto Calligarich"
After few minutes, we faced Ex-Sakanadome Waterfall. It was only 2m high water fall, but there was no clue, I climbed the right bank acrobatically and put out the rope for Ubi-chan. As we walked for a while, the valley became the deep gorge and the compressed flow became deeper and stronger. When we turned one blind corner of the valley, there was a huge snow bridge caught upon 30 meters high valley hill. It looked like breaking and falling down any time soon. That was too huge and too unstable snow bridge. The current under it was very deep and rapid. We had to give up wading up the stream there. However, it was quite an inspiring sight.

"Photo by Uberto Calligarich"
We had lunch at down-stream of that place and slowly went down the stream. The sun in summer was as strong as ever, the temperature went up but the walking in a pure flow was very pleasant. In the pool by Nabekura-zawa, high school students boys and girls sawanobori (stream climbing) group was practicing swiming supported by instructors by a rope. They said they were wading up Oh-Obisawa from now on and stay overnight in the mountain and coming down the climbing path tomorrow. We waved hands and said, "Take care and enjoy!". Everyone turned about and waved hands with a smile.

This time, we could not reach the target waterfall. Moreover, it was only 200 meters from the waterfall. It was disappointing, but fishing was very good and we really enjoyed breathtaking sceneries. Also, we met more fishermen and sawanobori climbers than usual during this trip, and everyone was very nice. On the last day, we met the local elementary school students who were led by the teachers. They were on a beginner river hike tour and everyone looked enjoying the walk very much. They all said hello to us with smiles. It reminded me the smiles of the high school students who were waving hands at that pool Nabekura-zawa a day before. I was thinking that Japanese young people were still not that bad.

"Photo by Uberto Calligarich"

Interview with 後藤陽子 (Goto Yoko)



Translated by Akinori Jay Yamamoto

Photos by 正悦敦賀


The rain is coming down gently this evening. Here in the Sonoran Desert where I live, this is a welcome event. It brings life and color to the desert. The sound of the rain also reminds me of huddling under the tarp at our Tenba on a Genryu trip near Tadami. For now, I am far away from our Interview subject, half the globe away in a climate very different from hers yet Tenkara joins us here, in the middle.

I’ve seen Yoko-san in Headwaters Magazine first. I then started to see her participation in social media with Sebata-san, Takano-san and a few other acquaintances. I have seen pictures of her picking mushrooms, casting a Tenkara rod, catching Iwana and in the last issue of Headwaters, hunting. She is an interesting and knowledgeable outdoors person of interest for our readers and friends.

Lets begin quickly.

I am looking forward to completing this Interview with her.

Adam: Yoko-san, thank you for accepting my request for the Interview. My name is Adam Trahan and I am 56 years old, a husband and a father of three children. I live in Phoenix, Arizona, one of the largest cities in the United States. Like anything that I do, I have studied Tenkara and it has brought me to your country a couple of times now. I’ve interviewed many of your talented and old Tenkara anglers. It pleases me very much that I am able to interview you as well, thank you.


“Can you tell us a little about yourself?”

Goto Yoko: Nice to meet you

My Name is Yoko Goto. Thank you for having me and give me this wonderful opportunity.

I live in Tokyo, the center of Japan, and I usually do the designer for work. I have been in the mountains as climbing, but since I was met Tenkara four years ago, I enjoyed fishing, wild vegetables, mushrooms, hunting and exploring mountain enjoyments.

Every Friday evening, I load stuff to a car and head for mountainous areas around Japan.

Adam: When I visited Japan the last time and stayed with Keiichi Okushi, Yuzo Sebata, Keiji Ito, Masayuki Yamano, Kozue Sanbe and Kazuo Kurahashi at the Tadami bansho. I would have liked to meet you and Tanidoraku Takano. Maybe we can meet sometime in the future? I hope to visit Japan maybe next year if all goes well. I will bring my wife and my youngest son with me to Tokyo and then spend another week up in the mountains with my friends and there, I hope we can meet.


“I’m just curious, do you meet a lot of new Tenkara people from other areas?”

Goto Yoko: When I started Tenkara, there were no friend for fishing. However, I came across to Mr. Sebata, and I was able to meet many surroundings with him for Tenkara. From those connections, through Facebook, I have friend all over in Japan. However, I have never met a Tenkara fisher from overseas in person.

I am looking forward to Adam-san coming to Tokyo.

I hope to see you!

Adam: Very cool! I look forward to meeting you too!

When I started Tenkara, about 8 years ago now, there was nobody in my area doing it. I got my first rod from Daniel at Tenkara USA and then researched Tenkara by making Japanese friends on the Internet. I started representing Sakura in North America and helped set up many people with their first Tenkara rod. I taught them what I knew and it was not hard to understand.

When I came to Japan on my first Tenkara fishing adventure, it was to meet a fly fishing friend but I had already stopped fly fishing and only did Tenkara. My Japanese friend respected Tenkara but he was only fly fishing. He took me to see Masami Sakakibara. Masami was the first Tenkara angler I saw fishing besides the people that I taught Tenkara to. Needless to say, he is very good at it.


“Did someone teach Tenkara to you? Please tell us about your circle of friends. Do you have a lot of Tenkara angler friends?”

Goto Yoko: When I started Tenkara, I did not have a specific mentor.

Tenkara is a difficult fishing to improve without instructed from anyone. I went to classes, or went for fishing of various people and observed how to fish. I went to go anywhere if there was a chance to cast a Tenkara rod. Then, I noticed that the fishing methods of Tenkara are different for each person. I felt there are wide diverse of theories about the line length, hardness, type of line, weight of Kebari, same fishing for each pole.

I met Mr. Sakakibara within such situation. Looking at his fishing at a glance, I decided to call him "the Master". My Master's Tenkara style was wonderful and I love it. I feel there are still much to learn from such a great teacher.

Adam: I have seen very few women Tenkara anglers here in America and that goes for fly fishing as well. Of course there are some but it is a small percentage in comparison to the numbers of men.

In my life, women are equal to men.

The American culture of women has changed over the very short course of the life of our country.

But please realize this, I am interviewing you because you are a great Tenkara angler first. The second reason is because you are a keen outdoors person and a woman.

I think that is important for you to know.

I do many things besides Tenkara. I really enjoy flying gliders, particularly hang glider and paraglider. It is important to note that I was taught to fly by a woman. She was very good at communicating what I needed to know to survive the student learning process and had excellent ability to understand and read the way I learned. Sometimes she would make me repeat simple lessons and other times, just skim through the harder lessons that I found that I may need more time with. She seemed to have intuition in teaching me and I think that women generally have excellent insight into the nature of things.

In my area, I have women friends that are hunters and I understand that you hunt too! I thought that your country had a ban on guns? But I see that Headwaters magazine sometimes features hunting which I enjoy.

I think that women make excellent hunters and fishers because of this intuition.

I’m personally not a hunter but I do like eating the meat that my hunting friends fix or give to me and or the feathers or fur that I get to use for tying my flys.

Anyway…


“Can you tell us about your hunting?”

Goto Yoko: Actually, I came up with hunting before fishing. I was curious about the act of taking living things and eating it. However, having license to use guns is very difficult in Japan. It took quite a while. Before the gun's permission was granted, when I entered the winter mountain for the first time to accompany the hunt, I thought that I had never seen such a beautiful mountain. Whether it is a fish or a beast, the mountains where there are living things are very beautiful and exciting. Of course, it was shocking to me the dead wild boar with blood I saw for the first time, but I was touched by the attitude of the hunter who I admired.

I have just started hunting. I want to gradually add up knowledge of the mountains and want to be like a senior hunter. Current in Japan most younger people not want to be a hunter, but I think I want to be a one who inherits technique of hunting.

Adam: I look at fishing as a great way to spend time in the forest. For me, it’s all about the outdoors and enjoying the serenity of living where people have not made an impact. I lose myself in nature, I’m taken away from the stress of living in the city and bathed in the forest quiet. I lose time while in the forest, a few hours seem like a minute and on the other side, sometimes sneaking up and placing one cast to a big fish may seem like hours when it was only just a couple of minutes. Time is interesting while deep in the forest.


“Do you have any experiences like this?”

Goto Yoko: In a waterfall basine at a creek, I hooked a sinking driftwood. However, when I try to up the rod tip for unhook, I noticed that it was not a driftwood.

It was a very big Iwana.

I felt the vibration of the fish restive came to hand. But a big driftwood was sanked between me and the fish and I could not retrieve the fish easyly. I was desperately thinking how to retrieve it. I thought if I jump into the water like Sanpei (a famus fishing Manga character), I might be able to capture it on the other side of the driftwood. However, I might took too much time, the fish was ran away.

It was such a mysterious time that it was such a short time as it was long. I often remember that I would like to meet that Iwana.

Adam: When I am headed out to fish, I have a couple of different zones that I choose the stream I want to sample. The distance from my home is 100 and 200 miles away. Most of the time I do day trips into these areas, it’s a long day but because of my family, I can do more one day trips than I can spend the night out.


“How do you choose where you want to fish and what is the length of your favorite type of trip?”

Goto Yoko: I change the fishing spot depend on the season. I do not know how it is in overseas, but I can do mountain stream fishing in Japan from March to September. In the March, just after the prohibition period of the season, we will make a day trip to the close by area. It is still cold and I cannot go to high altitudes. Sometimes there are snow falls. When it gets warmer, I will stay at a river and have a bonfire. In the summer, I wear a big backpack and enter the deep mountains. Sometimes it take long as 5 days. There are places I can only go when the snow melt. Summer in the mountain is so short and not so many opportunities. 

In fall, I aim for big fish to swim upstream.

I like all kinds of fishing that catches to the change of nature in the four seasons.

Adam: This year I am going to refocus my energy on lightening my backpack taking only the lightest gear and focusing on what I need rather than what I want to use. Over the years, I have backpacked with all sorts of different approaches that worked yet the experiences did not sustain an efficient path that made my backpacking easier.

Let me explain a little.

When I was younger, I was in the Army and I lived outdoors quite a bit using only what I was told to carry. My pack was heavy with durable items that were not designed for lightness. The equipment was designed for durability, it worked but was very heavy. I hiked many miles and lived outdoors in the jungle and in the forest but the movement was not enjoyable. I enjoyed my time at rest but movement was difficult at best.

As I returned to civillian life, I was able to choose my equipment and the important lessons I learned outdoors in the Army were at the center of my decisions. I had to develop my own style, my own look at living outside. My approach toward backpacking was filtered through the experience of the Army and I was having difficulty in removing myself from that philosophy of equipment choices. I did not have the understanding of a light and free look at living in the outdoors.

Eight years ago (2009) I switched from fly fishing to Tenkara. Already I was on the path to simplify my fly fishing. It was one of the reasons why I wanted to learn a deeper level of fishing and living outdoors, it was desireable to me, learning efficiency much quicker.

“The more you know, the less you need.”

To sum it up, Tenkara helped me focus more deeply on what was important through knowledge and it helped keep focus on what was more important. Tenkara has helped me filter my approach in more ways than just fishing.

Having a Tenkara focus has been a great lesson for me, a lesson in efficiency.


“Yoko-san, can you tell us a little bit about your approach to the outdoors and why you choose Tenkara?”

Goto Yoko: When I started fishing, I had a lot of choices for Fishing, lure, fly fishing, ocean fishing, etc. I tried some of them and I was sick of the complexity of the tools.

In such a case, I was surprised to know the ultimate simple fishing named Tenkara. It was exactly the ideal fishing for me. The more I examine it, the more I understand the charm of Tenkara. Since I started Tenkara, I have not done much other fishing.

Another thing, I think that the attraction of Tenkara is close distance to fish. Especially in mountain streams, there are chance when you drop Kebari from behind while looking at fish, and hooked fish vibration directly comes to hand through line and pole. Unlike fishing tackle with reel, if you make a mistake in direction or angle, it will be brake a line in a moment.

It is regretful at that time, but I will go out for fishing again soon.

Adam: I have been to Japan now three times, once when I was young in the Army and twice now for fishing since I have learned Tenkara. For me, Tenkara is Japanese fly fishing and it represents a little more than just fishing, it represents efficiency as I have described it above.

As far as the outdoors go, I have favorite areas that I enjoy visiting. My home state of Arizona is very diverse and it is beautiful. I live in the desert and I travel to the mountains and streams to live for a little while in the cooler climate to enjoy the outdoors.

I visit Colorado, one state away and it is an area that has many high mountains and streams of all different kinds. I travel regularly to Colorado and I must say, from what I have seen in Japan, Colorado is a special place that I am drawn to. It is so beautiful, the mountains there are always calling me to come visit. I answer that urge to go there regularly and I have learned that everything that I need is right there in Colorado.

Of course my own mountains in Arizona has all that I need but I have explored my state so much, I like to travel a little bit for new adventures.


“Is there a place where you desire to go that has all of the things you need in an outdoor experience?”

Goto Yoko: Before I started Tenkara, I liked traveling abroad. I did trekking overseas as well.

However, my idea had changed, starting with Tenkara four years ago. I noticed that Japan is very interesting place.

The diversity of mountain streams in Japan impossible be known to the best even if I have a lifetime.

There are countless unexplored hidden stills in the mountains. I am going to various places in Japan and fishing now. I think this fun will continue in the future.

Adam: I have collected quite a bit of Japanese Tenkara books. Along with those books, I have also collected many Tenkara videos. I really like what Kazuya Shimoda has done with his books and videos and I am very impressed with Yuzo Sebata. I was very fortunate to spend time with him this last year in September. I have seen him in many books by Yamamoto Soseki and he has written his own books and created videos as well. I think of all the Tenkara Anglers in Japan that are well known, it is Sebata-san that I see as the iconic Japanese Tenkara Ambassador. His video of him fishing the Western rivers in America so long ago, well, it’s just the icing on the cake for me.

“I see that you have spent time wish Sebata-san, can you tell us a little bit about what you have learned from him? Maybe a story about him?”

Goto Yoko: I was very lucky, as soon as I started Tenkara, I met Mr. Sebata and got a wonderful opportunity to accompany with him to fishing. Actually, however, no one caught any fish in the party. At that time, what I learned from Mr. Sebata was all of the stream. How to put a tarp, how to raise a bonfire, how to cook rice, how to eat the wild vegetation's growing on the stream side. "Seta House" made by spreading a blue sheet was very beautiful and comfortable. He gathered the twigs around tarp and quickly raised the fire. I was a beginner and surprised, the scale kept falling from my eyes. (Do you understand Japanese proverb "Scales fall from the eyes"? - actually it is English expressions) I enjoyed the all of funs of river at that fishing trip.


“I think it is only fair to ask you if you have any questions for me? Please feel free to ask me any question you like. Thank you very much.”

Goto Yoko: In Japan there are few people fishing in Tenkara, but I heard that overseas are getting popular recently.

What kind of image do you have about fishing in Japan and Tenkara?

Adam: Yoshikazu Fujioka and I have been friends since he was making his web site on his favorite streams in 1996. Through our common love of fly fishing small streams, I already knew about the type of streams you have in Japan. Another friend, Satoshi Miwa and I have a friendship and we shared our interests in fishing streams too. He had shown me many streams that I desired to fish. So I think my image was pretty accurate.

I visited in 2013 and in 2016, many different streams and mountains with lots of friends. I visited Masami Sakakibara in 2013 to understand a deeper level of tenkara and Keiichi Okushi (Yuzo Sebata and friends) in Tadami in 2016. Through my visits, I have introduced many people in Japan to new and lasting friendships. It is nothing less than amazing but it is not me, it is this old style of fishing. Tenkara is truly a unique way of fishing, travel and meeting many new friends.

Now I am sharing your story of tenkara fishing.

I only want others to understand how beautiful Japan is and pay tribute to tenkara's country of origin.

Adam: I have many many more things to ask you, I see you on social media fishing Tenkara and just having so much fun on a mountain stream. I want to thank you for sharing your time with us.


“Please use this opportunity to tell us anything you want to.”

Thank you Goto Yoko, I appreciate your participation.

Goto Yoko: I started fishing because I wanted to take a living creature by myself and eat it. In Japan, there were professional fisherman who used to live for fish Iwana, they are my longing. There is no longer have that occupation anymore, but their fishing methods "Tenkara" are still left now. Of course, I am releaseing most of the fish now, but I think it will be a wonderful experience what to catch living things to eat by own. There are not many female anglers, but I want many women to have such like experiences.

Mountains show me different expressions if I chase a deer with gun than summer fishing.

Mountains playing is deeper than I may imagine, I guess.

Thank you for having me and give this wonderful opportunity.